Read-Along

Nov. 8th, 2016 01:05 pm
ext_1888: Crichton looking thoughtful and a little awed. (gleeful charlotte)
[identity profile] wemblee.livejournal.com
At another den of iniquity I frequent, someone (not me, I'm a flake) organized a Jeeves & Wooster read-along. Would anyone be interested in doing such a thing here? Like, once a week we could do however many chapters seems wise, there'd be a post, people would comment... Or maybe this could be a thing to try over on Imzy? Thoughts?
[identity profile] wotwotleigh.livejournal.com
I just came across a page of Wodehouse's notes, published as a photographic plate in P. G. Wodehouse: A Literary Biography by Benny Green (New York: The Rutledge Press, 1981). Oh, what might have been . . .

Surely I can get something out of Bertie being pursued by Beefy. )
[identity profile] 3a-berkeley.livejournal.com
Am I delusional or did Bertie once describe himself as being 'safe in taxis'?
[identity profile] horriyuo.livejournal.com
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Jeeves and Wooster Sketches

Basically this is what happens. I know they're hard to see but I'm too lazy to use my scanner & thought you lot would be interested in seeing these.

My style for these two often change depending on whether i've recently watched the tv series, read the books & other stuff.
[identity profile] wotwotleigh.livejournal.com
I have finished reading The Adventures of Sally, and I have feelings about it!

Slightly spoilery discussion below the cut. )
So, all-in-all, a delightful read, with certain characteristics that I wish had appeared more often in the Jeeves and Bertie stories. I still think Bertie and Sally's paths should cross at some point. I'm thinking that a Sally and Gladys team would be an awesome pair with Bertie and Jeeves . . . the potential for meddling and matchmaking would be limitless! 

ETA: The Grand Magazine version of Sally appears to have been illustrated by none other than A. W. Mills! The Collier's version has lovely illustrations, too.
[identity profile] wotwotleigh.livejournal.com
I'm trying once again to explore a bit more of Wodehouse's massive oeuvre, and I've recently started reading The Adventures of Sally! It's fascinating to read a Wodehouse story with a female protagonist (which was also the case, iirc, in The Old Reliable -- but it's been a long time since I read that one). Sally is appealing, and while she has some Mary Sue-esque qualities (Extremely pretty, except that her mouth is a little "too wide"! Everyone loves her!), she has an interesting enough personality that these traits are forgivable. She's hilariously sarcastic, has a reasonably high opinion of herself (which is not a bad thing, IMO) and is also very pushy/nosy, albeit in a well-meaning way.

Have any of you read this one? Any thoughts on what would come of a meeting between Bertie and Sally? I think he'd like her, but I wonder if she'd take it upon herself to get all up in his business . . . although perhaps as a supporter of a Jeeves/Wooster alliance? *swats plot bunnies*
[identity profile] shes-a-geek.livejournal.com
I don't know how many folks here are fans of Kim Newman's Anno Dracula series (alternate history populated with vampires and other important literary and historical figures). However, because the long-awaited fourth novel in the series is being released soon, the rest of the series is being rereleased with "DVD extras" (novellas, scripts, annotations, and interviews). The "bonus novella" for the second book in the series, The Bloody Red Baron, is called "Vampire Romance" and takes place at the estate of one Agatha Gregson (known to her schoolgirl niece Lydia as "Bloody Aunt Agatha" or B.A.A.).  B.A.A., with the help of her assistant Mr. Spode, gathers many of the important vampire elders from around the world in order to appoint a new vampire king or queen--or so the assemblage thinks until one of the guests is murdered. Lydia, an avid reader of Rosie M. Banks and other "vampire romances," hopes that the gathering might bring her soul mate.

Bertie and the Drones Club receive only passing mentions, but it is a fun read that offers more than a few swipes at certain modern vampire novels.
[identity profile] lapin-petite.livejournal.com
I hope it will not disturb here:3 Maybe it will be interesting too- There is lot of fanfics,art,even photos so why not jewellery? I was deeply influenced with whole Wodehouse world.And because i love making original accesories I made a few inspired by this time period. I tryed use suitable materials,colors and charms.


You can see also process of designing and improving literature which i used:3 )

[identity profile] erynn999.livejournal.com
I don't know where I saw mention of it (probably here somewhere in one of the comments, as that is the way of these things), but I picked up a copy recently of C. Northcote Parkinson's Jeeves: A Gentleman's Personal Gentleman, a "biography" of our own dear Reginald Jeeves.

I was uncertain what to expect, given how different people tend to view the characters. The book has some very charming moments in it, and some quite amusing anecdotes, including a mystery set in France that involved not just Hercule Poirot, but Lord Peter Wimsey and Father Brown, if you can imagine such a thing. Parkinson's Jeeves has traveled extensively in Europe and in North and South America, mostly before he met Bertie. I can certainly see Jeeves as a world traveler.

There were, however, a number of things that simply didn't ring true for me. In the first chapter, examining Jeeves's childhood, Parkinson notes that Jeeves was an only child and orphaned at an early age, yet he doesn't explain how Jeeves later acquires Mabel as a niece. His relationship with Charlie Silversmith seems much rockier than what Bertie presents in his accounts. The author also has Jeeves working for Lord Worplesdon twice, which I just don't see any evidence for in canon. He's also attempted to shoehorn Jeeves into the lives of nearly every Wodehouse character going. Sadly, it was things like this that didn't let me really enjoy the book very much.

Thankfully, I didn't pay too terribly much for the book (hardbound, 1979, St. Martin's Press). If you're a completist, it might be worth a look, but I wouldn't really recommend it beyond the fact that it presents one author's view of how Jeeves had become the man we got to know through Bertie Wooster. Quite honestly, a lot of the fic in this community is far better written and much more entertaining.

I am so glad I know all of you wonderful writers and artists!
[identity profile] ironicbees.livejournal.com
Her "understanding" with Jeeves is such a mystery to me. After reading "Jeeves in the Springtime" again, I'm still not sure exactly what was going on. That story sure raises a lot of questions. Do you think Jeeves really had an understanding with her, or did he just make that up, and if so, why?

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[identity profile] erynn999.livejournal.com
In response to [livejournal.com profile] angieveep's inquiry about jazz age slang, yesterday I picked up a copy of Eric Partridge's Slang: To-day and Yesterday at a used bookshop. It was originally written about 1930 and revised again shortly after WW2 (1950 apparently). It has several mentions of Wodehouse specifically, and some glossaries of slang from various periods. It's very genteel, given the period in which it was written, but it would be a great resource.

The link above is for ABEbooks and they have a bunch of copies starting at less than $4. Siff up your slang! :D
[identity profile] ironicbees.livejournal.com
This has come up briefly in past discussions, but I thought it might be interesting to go into it at somewhat greater length.

Pauline seems more perceptive than most of Bertie's fiancées. She could tell that he was glad to be out of their engagement, while he thought he was upset about it (and as for that, why did he propose in the first place?). She doesn't operate under the delusion that he's still in love with her. She asks Bertie "'Don't you worship the way [Chuffy's] hair fluffs up behind?'" And then there's her feeling perfectly safe being in his bed and wearing his pajamas. This leads me to wonder if she'd sensed something about his inclinations.

What tipped her off that he didn't really want to marry her? Do you think she could tell that Bertie was into men*? If she doesn't know about that, did she simply assume he had feelings for someone else? Was she just really oblivious about how her being in his bed would appear?

And what about the other ladies? I think Aunt Dahlia and Angela are the likeliest to know or suspect, but I'm not sure if they actually do.


*Not so much that she believed he was gay and only faking interest in women, but that maybe he liked men as well.
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[identity profile] gunitneko.livejournal.com
I wish to start a discussion. How much of Jeeves work is Marvel and how much is undiagnosed OCD? Thoughts! GO!

(and are there any fics?)
[identity profile] ironicbees.livejournal.com
I've completed my notes for the novels, and I decided to put it up in one whole file instead of splitting it in two as originally planned. Since Google docs was such a bitch to work with, I made a pdf instead. All the notes - novels, short stories, chronology - can be downloaded in a zip file here. I tidied up all the files and added footnotes, and corrected a few errors here and there.

Now I can finally get back to doing more art!
[identity profile] ironicbees.livejournal.com
From "The Code of the Woosters" on, Bertie gives out information that Jeeves shares with him from the Junior Ganymede Club book. But there are severe penalties for members who reveal specifics about what's in it. If any club members read Bertie's stories, or have acquaintances/employers who do, they're eventually going to realize that someone's been violating Rule 11. Bertie might write under a pen name, and disguise the names and places in his stories, but how many clubs for valets & butlers can there be in London that have a club book the members have to contribute to? It would be obvious to members who and what Bertie was talking about, and relatively easy to find out the identities of the gentleman and the valet responsible for the leak.

What I'm wondering is, by the time Bertie has written "The Tie That Binds", has Jeeves been expelled from his club? Even if Jeeves or Bertie feel secure enough to be willing to share details from the book because Jeeves's position is now permanent, I don't think Jeeves would want to lose that social outlet, nor lose his reputation among other servants. Do they feel secure enough to do it because Jeeves did get kicked out and now has nothing to lose? I don't know. Anybody have any opinions or theories about what went on?

There's also the issue of when the destruction of Bertie's 18 pages was discovered. I'm sure it wouldn't be long before that happened, since they're so popular. Do you think Jeeves would be able to be able to argue his way out of expulsion for it, like in The Code of the Ganymede?
[identity profile] cucumbermoon.livejournal.com
What ho! I have been reading The Mating Season for the first time in several years and I noticed something I had forgotten. Does it strike anyone else as odd/interesting/wonderful that Bertie consistently refers to Jeeves' uncle Charlie Silversmith (the butler at Deverill Hall) as "Uncle Charlie" throughout this book?
[identity profile] erynn999.livejournal.com
So. Doing. Each. Other.

This, from "Jeeves and the Tie That Binds," regarding Ginger and Bertie before Jeeves came into Bertie's life:

Chapter 2, Aunt Dahlia calls Bertie. She notes that Ginger is visiting.

"Know him?" I said. "You bet I know him. We were like... Jeeves!"
"Sir?"
"Who were those two fellows?"
"Sir?"
"Greek, if I remember correctly. Always mentioned when the subject of bosom pals comes up."
"Would you be referring to Damon and Pythias, sir?"
"That's right. We were like Damon and Pythias, old ancestor."


Chapter 3, Bertie describes meeting Ginger. They had adjacent rooms at Oxford, and it sounds like it was lust at first sight.

Our rooms at Oxford had been adjacent, and it would not be too much to say that from the moment he looked in to borrow a siphon of soda water we became more like brothers than anything, and this state of things had continued after we had both left the seat of learning.

Bertie mentions that Ginger got himself a girlfriend and moved out to Steeple Bumpleigh, Aunt Agatha's abode, and he wasn't going to cross the border there for anything.

But I had missed him sorely. Oh, for the touch of a vanished hand is how you might put it.

One might assume that Bertie and Ginger's affair had continued after they left school, and only ended when Ginger left for Steeple Bumpleigh, before Jeeves came along. A couple of pages later, Bertie sings Ginger's physical praises.

A cloud passed over his face, which, I ought to have mentioned earlier, was well worth looking at, the eyes clear, the cheeks tanned, the chin firm, the hair ginger and the nose shapely. It topped off, moreover, a body which also repaid inspection, being muscular and well knit. His general aspect, as a matter of fact, was rather like that presented by Esmond Haddock, the squire of Deverill Hall, where Jeeves's Uncle Charlie Silversmith drew his monthly envelope. He had the same poetic look, as if at any moment about to rhyme June with moon, yet gave the impression, as Esmond did, of being able, if he cared to, to fell an ox with a single blow. I don't know if he had ever actually done this, for one so seldom meets an ox, but in his undergraduate days he had felled people right and left, having represented the University in the ring as a heavyweight for a matter of three years. He may have included oxen among his victims.

So, yeah, they were obviously So Doing Each Other. Practically canon.
[identity profile] ironicbees.livejournal.com
*wipes sweat from brow* *curses Google docs*

Okay, so here are my notes for the short stories, and a rough chronology.

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Are there any other sites/services like Google docs that allows you to publish docs online and share them privately, but that aren't so damn hard to use? After the trouble I had getting this prepared, I'm not looking forward to formatting what looks to be another 150+ pages in Google. >:(


ETA: I'm going to go ahead and unlock this for now. Hopefully all the quotes from the books don't exceed some legal limit. I'll probably lock it again in a week or two to be safe.
[identity profile] ironicbees.livejournal.com
For well over a year now, I've been going through the Jeeves stories in order and taking notes. (I swear, the series is even gayer when read in order). I've only got 4 novels left before I'm done, and in the meanwhile I've started transcribing my notes. So... I was wondering if any of you would like to have access to them. The notes were taken mainly with a view to charting the nature/status of Jeeves & Bertie's relationship, but there are also dates; story contradictions; Jeeves & Bertie's various relatives; info about their childhoods/pasts; character reactions; their tastes in culture/fashion; literary references; questions & personal observations; theories, etc. I figure it could potentially be a handy resource for writers. The info isn't categorized by subject right now, but once I'm done with the initial transcription that may be my next project.

So far I've finished typing up the notes for the short stories. It'll be some time before the novels one gets done. I'm only up to The Code of the Woosters right now. But anyway, if you're interested in reading them, please let me know. I also have a tentative chronology written up that I could include.

Okay, now for some art. Probably not entirely work-safe.

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[identity profile] firtavain.livejournal.com
What ho everyone,

I was wondering if anything had ever become of the idea of making the fantastic fanfic Jeeves and the Artistic Verisimilitude into a book. 

I found the following link http://fanlore.org/wiki/Jeeves_and_the_Artistic_Verisimilitude which shows that the book has somehow been published, but when I go to the website lulu.com and search for the previously mentioned title, I get not results.

I would love to have a copy of that story as a book, especially with the art that was made.

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