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I don't know where I saw mention of it (probably here somewhere in one of the comments, as that is the way of these things), but I picked up a copy recently of C. Northcote Parkinson's Jeeves: A Gentleman's Personal Gentleman, a "biography" of our own dear Reginald Jeeves.
I was uncertain what to expect, given how different people tend to view the characters. The book has some very charming moments in it, and some quite amusing anecdotes, including a mystery set in France that involved not just Hercule Poirot, but Lord Peter Wimsey and Father Brown, if you can imagine such a thing. Parkinson's Jeeves has traveled extensively in Europe and in North and South America, mostly before he met Bertie. I can certainly see Jeeves as a world traveler.
There were, however, a number of things that simply didn't ring true for me. In the first chapter, examining Jeeves's childhood, Parkinson notes that Jeeves was an only child and orphaned at an early age, yet he doesn't explain how Jeeves later acquires Mabel as a niece. His relationship with Charlie Silversmith seems much rockier than what Bertie presents in his accounts. The author also has Jeeves working for Lord Worplesdon twice, which I just don't see any evidence for in canon. He's also attempted to shoehorn Jeeves into the lives of nearly every Wodehouse character going. Sadly, it was things like this that didn't let me really enjoy the book very much.
Thankfully, I didn't pay too terribly much for the book (hardbound, 1979, St. Martin's Press). If you're a completist, it might be worth a look, but I wouldn't really recommend it beyond the fact that it presents one author's view of how Jeeves had become the man we got to know through Bertie Wooster. Quite honestly, a lot of the fic in this community is far better written and much more entertaining.
I am so glad I know all of you wonderful writers and artists!
I was uncertain what to expect, given how different people tend to view the characters. The book has some very charming moments in it, and some quite amusing anecdotes, including a mystery set in France that involved not just Hercule Poirot, but Lord Peter Wimsey and Father Brown, if you can imagine such a thing. Parkinson's Jeeves has traveled extensively in Europe and in North and South America, mostly before he met Bertie. I can certainly see Jeeves as a world traveler.
There were, however, a number of things that simply didn't ring true for me. In the first chapter, examining Jeeves's childhood, Parkinson notes that Jeeves was an only child and orphaned at an early age, yet he doesn't explain how Jeeves later acquires Mabel as a niece. His relationship with Charlie Silversmith seems much rockier than what Bertie presents in his accounts. The author also has Jeeves working for Lord Worplesdon twice, which I just don't see any evidence for in canon. He's also attempted to shoehorn Jeeves into the lives of nearly every Wodehouse character going. Sadly, it was things like this that didn't let me really enjoy the book very much.
Thankfully, I didn't pay too terribly much for the book (hardbound, 1979, St. Martin's Press). If you're a completist, it might be worth a look, but I wouldn't really recommend it beyond the fact that it presents one author's view of how Jeeves had become the man we got to know through Bertie Wooster. Quite honestly, a lot of the fic in this community is far better written and much more entertaining.
I am so glad I know all of you wonderful writers and artists!
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Date: 2011-12-20 02:55 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:12 am (UTC)Though, I might be influenced by that being what most fanfiction writers think of all the Star Trek books that have been published. I didn't think that until I got flamed for recommending one of those books for being exactly what the requester was looking for. I still keep the good ones as head canon, now I just don't tell anybody;)
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-20 04:36 am (UTC)Maybe the book was good, I'm just not seeing that it's particularly in character, and applying fanfiction reasons for that. I hate when people post stuff that's 'slightly out of character'. In that case, you'd better have a good reason for it, instead of you just wanted to write Spock as emo or whatever.
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-20 03:06 am (UTC)Does Parkinson have anything to say about Jeeves's relationship with Bertie? And how much of Jeeves' life does he cover, timeline-wise?
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Date: 2011-12-20 03:24 am (UTC)Bertie figures prominently in two chapters and slightly more peripherally in the final two, totaling a little over a third of the book. Bertie is obviously a huge presence in Jeeves's life, as one might expect from how much Bertie wrote about him. Parkinson has Jeeves working for Lord Worplesdon (and Aunt Agatha) after he's worked for Bertie, which I honestly can't see, given how Agatha dislikes him so much. I can't see Percy hiring him under those circs at all.
The book covers Jeeves from his birth -- with a bit on his family prior to that -- to his retirement (he is still alive while the author was writing, and planning to write his own autobiography at some point, so no, he will not share his detailed diaries, thank you very much). The author has him taking over the Angler's Rest Pub/Inn from Mr. Mulliner, as Mulliner wants to retire, and Bertie owns the place as part of his holdings as the 9th Earl of Yaxley. Parkinson also has Bertie marrying Bobbie Wickham, of all people.
Parkinson notes that Bertie and Jeeves pretty much gradually "drifted apart," probably in order to justify making way for the events of The Return of Jeeves, wherein Bertie is no more than a background presence.
He doesn't attempt to really create a timeline for Bertie and Jeeves's adventures together. He does list a dozen women with whom Bertie was romantically involved over the years.
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Date: 2011-12-20 03:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-20 04:01 am (UTC)This is obviously some twisted AU. Twisted, I tell you.
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:05 am (UTC)And Bertie marrying Bobbie? Did he forget that Bertie came to view that prospect with horror? And that she was happily engaged to his friend Kipper?
(As for the whole Lord Yaxley thing, everybody takes it as a given that Bertie will inherit the title, but how can we be sure that it's not just a life peerage? Is there something I'm missing?)
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:14 am (UTC)But other than that, totally sounds like the author is a mary sue to me.
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:15 am (UTC)An excerpt from said scene, Bertie's speaking to Bobbie over lunch:
"You know, Bobbie, I have always loved you. But you were such a danger to the public that I was half afraid of you. Why were you such a horror, darling?"
As you can see, not Bertie at the top of his form.
I don't know anything about the nature of the whole Lord Yaxley thing. One might assume that the title came into the family either with Sieur de Wooster, or sometime when the Woosters were biffing off to the crusades and the like. It could easily have been an hereditary title. Bertie does constantly refer to himself as the "last of the Woosters" despite the existence of Claude and Eustace. One wonders about this.
I definitely take The Ties That Bind as a forever kinda thing, particularly with Jeeves destroying Bertie's section in the club book. One doesn't violate the sacred trust of the Junior Ganymede lightly! The implication was certainly that Bertie would never need another valet and that Jeeves was signing on permanently.
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:22 am (UTC)Um, yuck. D:
Bertie does constantly refer to himself as the "last of the Woosters" despite the existence of Claude and Eustace. One wonders about this.
I've always wondered about this too. Of course, Wodehouse was known to change his canon whenever he felt like it, as evidenced by Bertie originally being "Bertie Mannering-Phipps". (And Brinkley morphing into "Bingley" . . . That one always mystified me.)
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:25 am (UTC)I have to wonder if the Brinkley/Bingley thing wasn't more about getting the person mixed up with Brinkley Court or something? Wodehouse reuses names like nobody's business. Agreed about Wodehouse changing canon whenever he felt like it. Which is always why I don't worry too much about things like actual timelines and/or shifting things a little when I write fic in this fandom. I tend to see it as forgivable, considering canon is so flexible.
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:37 am (UTC)THIS! This so much. I mean, Jeeves has always done his level best to stay within Bertie's atmosphere. Even when they had that unfortunate misunderstanding re: the banjolele, Jeeves went with Chuffy. And you will never, ever convince me that Jeeves didn't know that Bertie wasn't going to rent that cottage from Chuffy and manoeuvre his way into that situation so that he could stay around Bertie. Plus, even while he was Chuffy's servant, he spent more time with Bertie than with anyone else. (Sorry, I think I'm infesting this thread with my own head canon... I'll just biff off toward the lurker shadows now...)
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:19 am (UTC)That said, I really do think she is too "larky" for him; Bertie may enjoy stealing an annual policeman's helmet, but he also enjoys peace and tranquility between his revels.
I really can't see Jeeves and Bertie drifting apart. Honestly, it's hard for me to even conceive of Jeeves without Bertie.
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Date: 2011-12-20 04:21 am (UTC)You and pretty much everyone else here. ;)
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Date: 2011-12-20 02:25 pm (UTC)Funny, I have trouble imagining Bertie going one day without Jeeves. We're probably both right ;).
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Date: 2011-12-20 05:07 am (UTC)I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
But a J&W / Dr. Who crossover would be delightful!
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