[identity profile] storyfan.livejournal.com
I found this while looking for the name of the playwright Bertie befriends on his trip to New York. It's an episode guide for the TV series, complete with the names of all the characters. It could be helpful if you're writing fic based on the TV shows or if you just can't seem to remember which actress played la Bassett in 1993.

Episode guide
[identity profile] laughinggas13.livejournal.com
Hello, all.

I'm working on an Extended Project for school over the summer and one of the options is to write a short story emulating a particular writer's style. I'll be writing in the style of PG Wodehouse, and since we also have to write an accompanying essay analysing our work, I was hoping people on here could rec me some good books/articles about:

a) Comedic writing in general, especially if they make reference to Wodehouse

b) Wodehouse's life (I already own Frances Donaldson's biography)

c) Books dealing with the time period - I realise Bertie, Jeeves, et al are basically trapped in Christie Time, but I like to throw in historical details like, I don't know, the type of soap Bertie would use. Something with a lot of detail on life in a specific area like London would be good.

d) Which of Wodehouse's books you think are particularly distinctive in style, because much as I adore the man, he was ridiculously prolific and I doubt I'll have time to read his entire back catalogue

e) Anything else you think might be helpful

Even though I don't need to start thinking about this 'til after the summer exams, I'm over-excited by the prospect and want to get on with it at once, if not sooner. And yes, my English teacher is made of awesome.

Tagging this with everything I can think of.
[identity profile] niektete.livejournal.com
Good evening, all!

A fic didn't want to be written, but needed to be. I grit my teeth angrily until it was approximately written. What I need now, is for someone to eyeball it briefly and tell me what direction they feel the little story ought to take after the 3,760 words I've written so far, because I really have no clue. Does one end it in a pornographic lavender-fest? Does one end it on a light-hearted Bertie-voiced note?

So. Does anyone have the time to have a look at the thing and let me know, very briefly, what sort of ending they'd have liked for it? One or two opinions should suffice, I think :) I will send to emails or post on an unlinked text site from my archive, whatever's more convenient.

Cheers, and thanks in advance!
ext_24392: (JW - Bertie Jeeves Luv)
[identity profile] random-nexus.livejournal.com
Ran across this here and wanted to share.

SOUP AND FISH
[Q] From Lee-Ann Nelson: I am baffled by an expression from P G Wodehouse. Bertie puts on his soup and fish. Can you explain this?

[A] I can. The soup and fish is a man’s evening dress, dinner suit, or dress suit, though I should really instead refer to it as a tuxedo, since — despite Bertie Wooster’s mainly London milieu — the phrase seems to be natively American.

Until I went delving in old US newspapers, I thought that Wodehouse had invented it. Indeed, the OED gives him the credit for its first use, in Piccadilly Jim in 1918: “He took me to supper at some swell joint where they all had the soup-and-fish on but me. I felt like a dirty deuce in a clean deck.” But there are earlier examples, such as this from The Atlanta Constitution of November 1914, in a report about local kids being given a slap-up meal by the Rotary Club: “There’s going to be no ‘fess up’ business; no ‘soup and fish’ outfits. It’ll be just a good dinner.”

But why soup and fish? Well, one dons these duds for a special occasion such as a formal meal. This is likely to be a heavyweight event, with many courses, starting with soup and followed by fish before one gets to the main event of the meat course. So the soup-and-fish is what one wears to consume the soup and fish.

Incidentally, one of the more delightful aspects of hunting down this kind of language is that sometimes you get more than you were expecting. The Grand Rapids Tribune in February 1915 included this: “After donning the complete Soup and Fish known in swozzey circles as Thirteen and the Odd, he didn’t look as much like a waiter as one might have supposed.” Thirteen and the Odd? There are other examples to be found, though only a few. Jonathon Green notes in the Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang that it is long-obsolete slang for a tail-coat, as worn with the full fig of white tie and tails, but says that its origin is unknown. Well, did you ever?

World Wide Words is copyright © Michael Quinion, 1996–2010. All rights reserved.
[identity profile] niektete.livejournal.com
Good evening, all! I come with a community pimp, which I feel could prove somewhat relevant to the members of indeedsir. It is a community for breaking through writer's block.

[livejournal.com profile] blocked_fanfic is the name, sharing writing resources is the game. It's a place for discussions, one-sentence fics, plot bunny adoption, prompts given and taken, etc. In short, a one-stop shop for anything related to writer's block. If you feel the need to commiserate, if you have good advice for those prone to writer's block, or simply want someone to prompt you a little, this is the place for it.

I hope my prompt doesn't offend, and feel free to come join if you need to get your creative juices flowing again ^^
[identity profile] niektete.livejournal.com
Dear chaps and chapettes, I need a few good tips, if you can spare me some.

I am working on a Jooster fic, which I have rather high hopes for. Longish, about four chapters/10,000 words I estimate (unless the plot bunny mutates horribly). I have the whole story worked out in my head, I wrote the first chapter with great enthusiasm and then - writer's block. I can't seem to write a single sentence without grimacing at it afterwards.

So, in short - what do people do when they have writer's/artist's block? How do you get your creative juices flowing again, so to speak? I'm asking since even my usual routine of tea, books and biscuits didn't work, and I really, really want to finish this fic :)

Thanks in advance!
[identity profile] closetofheroes.livejournal.com
Hi all.

I need someone whom I can occasionally send a chapter of a fic to for them to review. You don't have to be a writer to apply - someone who loves to read is all that's necessary! Read on if interested.

Read more... )
[identity profile] closetofheroes.livejournal.com
Hallo all,

Well, this list isn't complete or perfect, but I have, over the past six months or so, been putting together this table of words and phrases that might be considered 'Americanisms' or 'Modernisms' with a possible 1920s-30s era British English equivalent. I thought it might prove useful to Jooster writers who are concerned with being regionally accurate.

Read more... )
[identity profile] closetofheroes.livejournal.com
What ho, all. Another practical question here. Sorry to be so full of questions lately.

This is the question. If Jeeves were to be temporarily unemployed (by temporarily, I mean not more than a couple of weeks) and had to go and stay in a London hotel for a while, what sort of establishment would someone of his 'class' stay?

I know that Jeeves, while far from being as wealthy as Bertie, of course, was pretty well-off - far from being poor, at least. In the stories and novels we get glimpses of him living the high life a little bit when off-duty - the plush Ganymede club, the cigars in Manhattan night clubs, etc. Well-off enough to pass himself off as a reasonably well-to-do gentleman, anyway.

So, would he stay at one of the higher-end places, or would prudence prompt him to choose something more along the lines of a smaller inn or guest house?

If you happen to know anything about 1920/1930s London, or happen to know the names of some places Jeeves might have stayed at that time, I'm all ears! I've researched the Great Western Hotel (now a Hilton) in Paddington, but I can't get a sense as to whether Jeeves might have considered it too extravagant.

By the way, for the purposes of the plot I'm developing, it has to be a hotel - he can't be staying with family or friends or anything like that - and it needs to be in London, though not necessarily Central London.

Be glad to hear any opinions! Pip pip!
[identity profile] closetofheroes.livejournal.com
What ho all!

I just finished reading Ring for Jeeves, the Bertie-less novel Wodehouse wrote, and I'm wondering if the community would like a bit of information about it. I'm asking this because I suspect a lot of people in this community might not have looked over this book yet. I put off reading this one for the longest time, and only read it now because, as Jeeves might say, faute de mieux, or 'for want of anything better'. When you've read everything else, Ring for Jeeves seemed better than nothing.

I'll describe it very briefly.

This is the novel that is set post WW2, in which Jeeves is in the employ of Lord Rowcester. It's not really the joy to read that all the Bertie/Jeeves stories are, but it does have the odd laugh-out-loud moment.

Apart from the lack of Bertie, the big difference is that Jeeves is sort of the main character. At least, much closer to being the main character than he's ever been before. He's much more - I was going to say, 'developed', but that would imply that I don't think he's developed in the Bertie novels, and that wouldn't be true. I suppose the word is 'prominent'. His character is much more prominent. We're allowed to see what he's thinking once in a while, and Wodehouse devotes entire paragraphs to describing his mannerisms and actions as a means of demonstrating his aloof professionalism. And being more in the limelight, a lot of the novel's humour actually comes directly from Jeeves.

I suspect that, because the novel's not written in the first person, and because Wodehouse knew it was likely his last Jeeves novel, he allows himself to really show his personal love of the character. The description of Jeeves's first appearance is almost adulatory. In a way, I'd say he gets a bit carried away, and portrays Jeeves as being a bit more perfect than he really is, i.e. how he is in the Bertie stories. Jeeves is more selfless in his anxiety to serve, and he is also more colourful in expressing himself, less reserved. He is virtually the partner of his employer, barely subservient at all.

I'd recommend this novel for anyone wanting to see Jeeves in sharper focus than he can be seen through the Bertie stories. He might appear just a touch out of character, but I imagine those fic writers in the community would find it rather inspirational. Jeeves is a hard character to write!

Bertie Wooster is not present in the novel, but he is mentioned more than once - more than twice, in fact. These few mentions are somewhat slashy, I have to say, or at any rate, rather sweet. If anyone likes, I would be happy to transcribe the mentions of Bertie for the benefit of this community. Would that be welcome/appropriate? Let me know.
[identity profile] storyfan.livejournal.com
I'm wondering how each of you likes to handle point of view in your stories. Do you tend to stick to one side or the other or do you mix them up?Do you use omniscient? Does story length factor into your decision?

I'm working on a story that could go either way - one point of view or both. I normally stick with one because I think that makes for less confusion, but I'm willing to be open-minded about this. Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

[identity profile] niektete.livejournal.com
Um, yes, so. For those of us who write graphic sex scenes in the Jeeves&Wooster fandom...

Under a cut in case of kiddies wandering in XD )
[identity profile] innocentsmith.livejournal.com
Run-by link off-droppage!

Looking for reference material on what exactly various servants do? General information on Victorian houses and the stodgy prose of their inhabitants? Need a good recipe for a quadruped? I refer you to Mrs. Beeton's Book of Household Management, known to fans of the TV series as That Huge Book Bertie Reads When He Tries To Make Tea, and now available in full online.

http://www.mrsbeeton.com/

The "Duties of a Valet" section is here, about a third of the way down the page.

Abovestairs, you might find useful The Internet Guide To Jazz Age Slang. A lot of this is more suited to Pauline Stoker or assorted American con artists and gangsters than to Bertie's vocabulary, but some familiar terms turn up, and I've found it well worth a glance if you're short a bit of burble.

ETA: Courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] musegaarid, a bit more period slang.
[identity profile] msliz4857.livejournal.com
I posted this over at my LJ but thought I'd share it here as well. Mods, please feel free to delete if you find it too OT for the comm.

As I've been writing my fic, I've used Wikipedia as a resource to verify various facts of canon. That lead me to searching for all J&W-related articles; I was surprised by how many I found. Since a lot of them are interlinked, it got difficult to see which I'd already read before, so I decided to pull together a categorized link list. I thought maybe someone else would find it useful for fic writing or just general knowledge.

Oh, Jeeves, you really are the specific dream rabbit.
[identity profile] innocentsmith.livejournal.com
A bit of canon trivia and an O RLY? for the fandom, both pertaining to Very Good, Jeeves and the oft-debated question of Bertie's age.

A little of what you fancy does you good. )
[identity profile] innocentsmith.livejournal.com
Title: How to Write Jooster
Pairing: Jeeves/Wooster. Sorta.
Rating: PG for snark and fourth-wall breakage.
Warnings: Image-heavy, for those with slow connections. Meta-heavy, too.
Disclaimer: I don’t own these characters, or even these cliches. I just play with them, like all the rest of the fangirls and boys.
Notes: As before, pics from all over the place, but especially from the bounty of [livejournal.com profile] weaselwoman13.

How to Write Jooster, Part 2: No Joy in the Morning
Part 1 here

Would you believe that the screencaps were actually an afterthought when I started this series? )
[identity profile] innocentsmith.livejournal.com
Title: How to Write Jooster
Pairing: Jeeves/Wooster. Sorta.
Rating: PG for snark and fourth-wall breakage.
Disclaimer: I don’t own these characters, or even these cliches. I just play with them, like all the rest of the fangirls and boys.
Note: Didn’t really mean to write this - I’ve got a few million other fics which ought to take priority - but it arrived fully formed in my brain. So what’s a girl to do? Screencaps from...well, all over the place, really, but mostly by the previous gracious gifting of [livejournal.com profile] weaselwoman13

I really need a better title for this... )
[identity profile] magegirl8.livejournal.com
This entry is OT in that it is not J/W or Wodehouse themed, but it is relavant to the community in that it deals with the threatened rights of fanfic writerscand this community houses ff writers of the Wodehouse variety. Update: Though I have searched on snopes.com and other places, i have not been able to find verification of wheter or not this story is true, until i find proof of it's existence/non existence, i will treat this as a mild threat that may come to pass. If anybody has any concrete information on this, i would love for them to share.

lj cut )
[identity profile] desrose.livejournal.com
Is there a doctor in the house...???

I know this isn't an entirely appropriate post for a Jooster Slash community (or whatever we are...) but since this is related to a Jooster fic I'm writing I didn't think it would hurt... (Moderators or whatever are welcome to delete)

I've been working with the yahoogroup fanfic_med and they've been really helpful! Yay! But the response is usually really slow... First the moderator have to approve the post (and I don't think he or she checks daily) and only then can the doctors and other medical people there look at it. And then I have another question that comes up and its another couple of days...

I fear for my Jooster fic that by the time I get all of the medical relevances sorted out, I'll lack the drive to write it out!

My research can only go so far and I lack various medical books! So, anyone with a MD or in medical school...

I'm not going to put my questions out here, because that would completely ruin the plot! But I would like you to either contact me at: pup4588@aol.com or (AIM) pup4588, or leave your e-mail or whatnot so I can contact you!

Or should I just forget all this struggle and use artistic license? What does everyone think?

Question!

Jan. 8th, 2006 08:46 pm
[identity profile] desrose.livejournal.com
Okay everybody, just finishing up loose ends on a fic I'm working on...

Now, drumroll please, here's the million dollar question (if I can figure out how to phrase it right):

Back in Bertie's time, how many American dollars were there to a pound?

Thank you! *bows*

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