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Oh. My. GoodgollyheavenstoBetseyGod!

I was reading my Jeeves Omnibus I bought on my trip to England (bless that bookstore! None of the ones near me carried much Wodehouse. ;;) and I have been struck by a thought.

Jeeves has to be an ex-jewel thief. He has to be.

Let me give you my evidence, ladies and gentlemen of the courtroom.

Exhibit A!
The strange knowledge Jeeves posses in the strange affair of the two paintings. Now the name of this escapade escapes me, but you know the one where Bertie and Aunt Dahlia burn peice by peice a painting, but they burned the wrong painting? And then Jeeves came up with a plan to blame it on the recent bought of art-theives going around. Ladies and gentlemen of the courtroom, I bring to your attention how he knew how to break a window noislessly using treacle and brown paper. Usefull knowledge for a thief!

Exhibit B!
In Jeeves and the Feudal Spirit he knows the difference between cultured and genuine pearls, and how to tell the value and purity of a diamond. He claims he studied this "for some months at one time studying jewelery under the auspices of a cousin of mine who is in the trade."
Which trade is that?

Exhibit C!

He wouldn't take the cat back. Remember the cat Potato Chip was so fond of and would have lost the race without? He made Bertie attempt to take it back. It goes against the grain for a thief to return anything. He said it was not his place to RETURN cats. Is it his place to steal them perhaps?

I propose he was the ringleader of a gang of jewell thieves, in cahoots with his cousins and siblings.

Are there any fics to this effect? If not, we may have to write some!

I also propose the thought that he is training little Bertie to be a thief. Whenever it comes to stealing something, he always suggests Bertie, doesn't he?
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Date: 2009-04-18 10:25 pm (UTC)
ext_24392: (JW - Slashfic Sir?)
From: [identity profile] random-nexus.livejournal.com
Well, get to writing! Chop chop! *makes shooing gestures*

Date: 2009-04-18 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughinggas13.livejournal.com
Oh please do write something to this effect! The evidence is quite startling! And I love the thought that he's training up Bertie. :D

Date: 2009-04-18 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-dalliard.livejournal.com
So, big bad criminal mastermind R.Jeeves corrupting little innocent lamb B.Wooster.
Now that you've mentioned it, I can totally see Jeeves in that role. Oh please do write a fic about that.

Date: 2009-04-19 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waqaychay.livejournal.com
OMG IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! ;D

Date: 2009-04-19 12:45 am (UTC)
ext_24392: (JW - Such A Look)
From: [identity profile] random-nexus.livejournal.com
I think it's a very exciting and viable theory!
Did you write something yet?
;)

Date: 2009-04-19 12:47 am (UTC)
ext_24392: (JW - Jeeves-grammar)
From: [identity profile] random-nexus.livejournal.com
Only one way to solve that, you know.

Date: 2009-04-19 12:49 am (UTC)
ext_14419: the mouse that wants Arthur's brain (Default)
From: [identity profile] derien.livejournal.com
And maybe he hates Soapy Sid partly because he's competition? He did certainly seem very conversant with Soapy Sid, although he did have an excuse for that (previous employer was hit by Sid). I wish I could claim that they'd worked together in the past, but Sid would have recognized him if that was the case.

Date: 2009-04-19 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
*puts you in writing chamber filled with nom and lovely inspiration*

It's perfect. And rather sexy.

The Lady 529

Date: 2009-04-19 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chikkiboo.livejournal.com
JEEVES IS REALLY JUST A DEEP COVER ALTER-EGO OF SIMON TEMPLAR

ALIAS

THE SAINT


8^O

Date: 2009-04-19 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] closetofheroes.livejournal.com
Excellent theory!

And I have more evidence to support it! I just read 'Ring for Jeeves' (which, while not a fabulous novel, and sorely lacking in Bertie-ness, is certainly worth a glance just for more Jeeves-ness).

- In this novel he has persuaded his employer to become a 'silver ring bookie', and they both operate together disguised in check suits and false moustaches. So he's not averse to operating in disguise (we can also recall the 'Chief Inspector Witherspoon' ruse).

- When Jeeves and his employer enter the story there has actually been something of a car chase going on, with a winning customer pursuing them because they are unable to pay him his winnings. Who was behind the wheel? Jeeves, of course. Experienced in making getaways, perhaps?

- Later in the story Jeeves is able to suggest a very precise method to his employer for stealing a pendant that is currently fastened around a woman's neck. He even has a name for it, the 'spider sequence', which would suggest that he's used it before.

- He then coaches his employer through the 'spider sequence' - which supports that idea of him wanting to be a mentor to Bertie, drawing him into a life of crime.

- It is revealed that Jeeves has his own solicitor, or lawyer. Something a professional criminal would certainly find useful.

Other things:

- In at least two stories, Jeeves has knocked a character out with a heavy object - one of them a policeman, where he used an actual blackjack or cosh.

- He carries with him some kind of powerful sleeping drug, specifically for slipping into someone's drink, should the need arise. This is revealed in 'Much Obliged/Ties that Bind. He says that he is seldom without the stuff, and adds that opportunities for their use are constantly arising. (I can't quote exactly since I'm currently without the text.) Interesting, Jeeves.

Edited Date: 2009-04-19 03:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-19 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanix.livejournal.com
You know, as we all do, that Jeeves is an absolute font of knowledge and much knowledge comes from experience.

I'm sure he was leading some interesting and exciting life before he became a valet...

Date: 2009-04-19 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawnnun.livejournal.com
Jeeves is such a master criminal. In my personal canon, he has a Dark Past, and is actually enjoying still being able to play the game for much lower stakes. Bertie is a godsend, because he's so hopeless and innocent that *anything* can be a caper.

Date: 2009-04-19 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorediloto.livejournal.com
You know, criminal!Jeeves makes me think that only ONE person in the world could catch him. He's tall, he's dark and he's Victorian. Wanna guess who?

Date: 2009-04-19 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theempress14.livejournal.com
An aging Holmes tracking down Gentleman thief Jeeves? Yes plz. NAO.

woefully inappropriate Icon used only for the holmesy-ness

Date: 2009-04-19 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorediloto.livejournal.com
This should totally be written. Bonus points for Bertie being (pretending to be?) 100% unaware, Y/N?

(This reminds me mildly of a SH/J&W crossover of mine I never got the nerve to translate to English in which Jeeves is accused of having spent some time in a French prison...)

Date: 2009-04-19 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pipariperho.livejournal.com
OH YES! Please! With extra slass, if you don't awfully mind. Oh god, now I know what I am dreaming tonight...

Date: 2009-04-19 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughinggas13.livejournal.com
Oh my word, please YES! If I didn't think that it would turn into a horrible farce in my hands, I'd have a shot at this myself.

So, an appeal to all our talented writers: you know you want to!

Date: 2009-04-19 04:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] disassembly_rsn
before he became a valet

Why "before"?

Does Jeeves really strike you as the kind of person who'd like to go fishing on his holidays?

[disclaimer: idea of someone with a regular job being a thief during his holidays has been nicked from John D. MacDonald's Cinnamon Skin]

Date: 2009-04-19 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiorediloto.livejournal.com
I've got no objection whatsoever if someone more talented (and native speaker) than me likes the idea and wants to try! I would absolutely love to read such a fic!

Date: 2009-04-19 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawnnun.livejournal.com
I had no idea who this old bird was, but he just looked so bally disappointed that I could hardly stand it. He looked long at Jeeves, shaking his head in a way that could probably only be described as 'weary'.

"Reginald, what would your mother say to either of us?"

"I imagine, sir, that she would rebuke you for failing to mold me into something more like yourself." He set down the tea things with a rather shocking clatter, from someone so graceful and silent.

"I suppose it's your own sort of art in the blood." He sighed, and lit a cigarette, scrubbing his hands over his face as he leaned against the wall.

"Erm... Look, Mr.--"

"Smith." They both said at once.

I didn't believe that for a minute, but I've found it's best to just pretend that I buy whatever Jeeves is selling. "Mr. Smith, I'll happily leave you to have tea with your--"

"Nephew." Lord, like a pair of parrots. I'll acknowledge being pretty gormless sometimes, but this was bally suspicious.

Date: 2009-04-19 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theempress14.livejournal.com
If you need me, I'll be over there daydreaming about Stephen Fry and Jeremy Brett getting to act this out together. *gets chills* :D
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