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Since I'm not sure what people count as spoilers for episodes, and the progression during season, I'm putting my ill-put-together thoughts under a cut.

Now that I own all but season one of JW, I borrowed S1 from a friend and re-watched it. Is it just me or do Laurie and Fry play J and W differently as the seasons go on?

-S1 it is a very brisk interaction between them. "I'm not one of those men who become slaves to their valet's." (sidenote: You're so his bitch Bertie...) New, testing boundaries, and personalities.
-S2 is a bit of the same, all though after the "break up" episode, they do a little more... How should I put this? They are quicker to smooth talk each other out of disagreements.
- S3 is just, to me, where the ice breaks. From the first piano scene to the end of the season the relationship has definitely become more friendly.
- Honestly, by S4 they are more friends than employer/employee. In confidence with each other, that is to say when not around other characters, they are extremely friendly. But even in the presence of Aunt Dalia they are very bold in their manners. So much so that, during the cross-dressing scenes, they even take visible delight in the misfortune of the other.

I noticed this going on, and wondered if it was probably purposeful on the parts of the actors. I also was wondering if the same thing goes on in the books. I only own 4 of them, and I have no idea if there is any sort of continuity in them. I'm assuming you can pick up any JW book and be fine. There isn't an order is there? Anything that shows the growing friendship (and slashier things) going on between them?

Well, that was it. I hope my prattling wasn't too confusing. I needed to get this off my chest though, and this seemed the community to express it in.

Date: 2005-05-10 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tootsiemuppet.livejournal.com
But even in the presence of Aunt Dalia they are very bold in their manners.

;) I always thought if anybody would catch on about Jooster, it'd be Dahlia. ^_^ Well, to be fair, either Dahlia (who wouldn't badger them TOO much about it, I think) or Bobbie Wickham or Stiffy Byng (who would blackmail him to death).

You're quite right about the shift in the series, of course. It probably is purposefully done. In the first season they've just met, while in the fourth they've been living together for years, Jeeves has saved Bertie from some 17 engagements, and Bertie's friends know they can just pop by Berkeley Mansions, W1 to call on Jeeves's gigantic brain if they're in a bit of a spot themselves.

I think an interesting thing about Bertie is that he can only develop and raise himself above that sort of innate chump-ness by the knowledge that he has Jeeves to back him up and catch him should he fall (wait, I'm quoting book titles now). Take Jeeves away and Bertie just falls apart. So for all that he's immensely dependent on him, at the same time that's exactly what allows him to be independent (and God forbid - mature) as well. Jeeves without Bertie loses his warmth. Strange, come to think about it, how a man who makes a point never to move more than four facial muscles at the same time can still be so warm and loveable.

NO!! I'm sidetracking again, and I WON'T let it happen a second time. So we were on change. In the series. Well, really to be honest it's been a while since I watched them all in order - I tend to just pick out a DVD at random - so I haven't really noticed, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Stephen and Hugh did purposefully play it that way.


I only own 4 of them, and I have no idea if there is any sort of continuity in them. I'm assuming you can pick up any JW book and be fine. There isn't an order is there? Anything that shows the growing friendship (and slashier things) going on between them?
I didn't read the books in the correct order at all, mainly because I had immense trouble finding them in English in the first place. Heh. There IS an order, of course, and I'll look it up for you in a second, but it's in no way necessary.
And slash? Good lord, they're full of slash. Hee! ;) What do you think we needed a community for? *giggles happily*

Date: 2005-05-10 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tootsiemuppet.livejournal.com
Oh damn, I had it somewhere. I've got to go. Class and all that, but I'll post the list as soon as I get back online.

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