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Pre-Canon

Anything you like about the boys before they entered each other's lives
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Date: 2012-12-01 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eaivalefay.livejournal.com
Oh my. Bertie is Agatha's Jeeves! *boggle* It's becoming quite a psychedelic circle here: Jeeves is Bertie's Jeeves, Bertie is Agatha Jeeves, and Agatha is the Jeeves that's failed to mold Bertie. (Perhaps she should enter retirement and leave it to the next generation.)

This is true. Jeeves doesn't get irked, does he? But, if pressed with repeated failure despite best efforts, what would he be driven to? (I just read a charming story where he decides to confess his feelings to Bertie, but event after event keeps getting in his way. He was getting quite frazzled by the end.) Perhaps his remaining calm and Agatha becoming irate in these crises has to do with class. As you say, Jeeves can't afford to be bothered, while Agatha can.

Class never entirely faded out of Wodehouse's stories, or still exists in the world? That is very interesting to think about (the former). I do think class division is still quite pervasive, though it crops up in different ways as the years roll on. Americans are definitely tuned out from our own class system though (utterly blind to it half the time), it's rather mind-boggling, and that just really is the fascinating part about studying various other systems… (The British class system has always fascinated me. And now I sort of want Bertie to visit his sister in India, because there's a whole other world that would probably boggle him.)

…and I have rambled for nearly two pages. I am going to stop now and hope LJ doesn't say this is too big. lol LJ politely told me I was far, far too chatty here. I promise I'll be briefer next time. *facepalm*

Date: 2012-12-05 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] godsdaisiechain.livejournal.com
Well... Aunt Agatha needs some type of interpersonal behind-the-scenes lackey, and who else can she ask? Claude and Eustace?

Good point! Jeeves can't afford to act or look bothered.

Re: class--I think, both. Someone should do the India Bertie story....that would be fun!!

Date: 2012-12-13 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eaivalefay.livejournal.com
I think Aunt Agatha should hire out for an interpersonal behind-the-scenes lackey. *grin*

Bertie in India would be rather brilliant. Ostensibly to visit his sister, of course, but we all know Jeeves finagled the trip somehow. ;) I have read a story where I think Jeeves goes to India and Bertie follows... I can't quite recall the name... Jeeves and the Monetary Imbalance, I think? If you want a link just let me know and I'll dig up the story properly for you!

Date: 2012-12-13 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] godsdaisiechain.livejournal.com
I have seen that one but not read it yet... I have been trying to save some fics for later days.

Perhaps Aunt Agatha had a behind-the-scenes lackey and is afraid that Jeeves will derail his/her work? But it does seem that intelligent women do not care for Jeeves in the least and women of normal or middling or lesser intelligence think him quite OK, really.

Date: 2012-12-14 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eaivalefay.livejournal.com
I breeze through fic in what free days I squeeze in (I had a lot more free days in summer, alas)... So I've gone through a lot of fic. It is almost alarming, the Jooster word count I must have read. I keep fearing I'm actually going to run out, but then I find a new recs page and file it away for perusal. lol

Yes, I've noticed intelligent women are quite put off by Jeeves. I think they're subconsciously aware he's quite a massive threat to their anarchy tyranny own influence over Bertie events. Normal women--like normal aunts, I suppose?--are less interested in Bertie so they don't need to worry about Jeeves, who in those instances is at worst an invisible valet and at best someone who's thinking up grand schemes to get them out of trouble. I rather expect Bertie's right and Jeeves could be Prime Minister if he wanted to be.

Date: 2013-01-05 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] godsdaisiechain.livejournal.com
Hey--

So, I just read Thank-you, Jeeves this morning and, well, it seems that Jeeves is not always 100% successful with other employers. Mr. Stoker, for example, does not seem to like the way he talks at all, and in Ring for Jeeves, he makes a few blunders. Shocking. Deeply shocking to my tender sensiblities

I completely agree that intelligent women seem not to like Jeeves's influence over Bertie, but they also (in the books) seem more upset because he has ideas above his station more than that they have less influence over Bertie (because that's certainly not the case). Aunt Agatha gets upset because Jeeves is totally not an invisible valet.

I also totally agree that Aunt Dahlia is not interested in Bertie

But then other women (like Pauline Stoker and Jill in Ring for Jeeves, Rosie M. Banks, and Bobbie Wickham) all really like Jeeves... and they kind of are all perfectly OK with Bertie (even if they think he's a bit stupid). And these women are totally not unintelligent. What do you think about the idea that these intelligent women don't like intellectual competition?

Huh... or maybe it's the molding? The intelligent women realize they can't mold Bertie as long as Jeeves is protecting him?

Confused.

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