Fic help, please!

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

You know how there are things you suspect  Jeeves would use a quotation to say? Things like: 'cheer up, bad things happen to everyone' are usually said with a quote from Marcus Aurelius, for e.g.
There are a few quotations in my fic. But not being very well-read or particularly good at Googling, I haven't managed to find the quotes to meet the words I need Jeeves to say.

There are three quotes I'm missing:

1. What quote would Jeeves use to get Bertie out of bed? I was hoping for a quote about the day getting on, sun rising in the sky, etc. I thought I'd find a good quote from Shakespeare, but all I found was some gaff about oily lids.

2. I need an equivalent for "the grass is always greener on the other side." Something about men never being happy with their lot.

3. ...Well, I promised no spoilers. But I have already spoiled for this bit. I need a quotation that would be Jeeves way of saying "hot damn, this feels good!" The word ecstasy would probably figure into it somewhere...

Thanks in advance for your help!

Comments

[fiorediloto.livejournal.com]

I'm really shitty at quotes, but there is an Italian proverb (and German too, it seems) that goes: "The morning has gold in its mouth". I thought you might like to have your Jeeves show his knowledge of foreign cultures ;)

[mxdp.livejournal.com]

Really? It's the same in Dutch: "de ochtendstond heeft goud in de mond"... :D

You can always use Wikipedia's proverbs thingy- http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/English_proverbs , and you can click on "themes". Maybe you'll find something...

[affectedmangoo.livejournal.com]

of de morgenstond :D

[muuskanuikkunen.livejournal.com]

This has nothing to do with anything, but I just have to mention that you can say that in Swedish too:
"Morgonstund har guld i mund"
Yay for international proverbs! :'D

Hopefully you'll find what you're looking for!

[mxdp.livejournal.com]

I secretly find that cool.ROFL^^

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

Ditto to that! Way cool!

[lady529.livejournal.com]

That goes for the Danes and us Norwegians as well. Morgenstund har gull i munn (Norwegian Bokmål. We don't have it in Norwegian Nynorsk), I mean. Usually pops up in embroidered form on something owned by someone's grandmother.

The Lady 529

[mxdp.livejournal.com]

True! *high five*

[random-nexus.livejournal.com]

Totally OT, here, but, Fiorediloto, your icon makes sparkly things happen to the curiosity node in my brain.

[fiorediloto.livejournal.com]

I confess myself guilty, I love it too! It's just random love for the juicy "steampunk + tentacles" combo XD

[random-nexus.livejournal.com]

Oh noes! I feel the pitter patter of teeny plot bunny feet!
RUN!!!

[fiorediloto.livejournal.com]

NOOO! Don't run! *tackles* It's for your own good. One day you'll thank me.

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

Oooh, I'd love a full-length steampunk J/W fic!

[random-nexus.livejournal.com]

Not the 'it's for your own good' ploy!!!
Curses!

EDIT: @ Juliacarmen - I'm actually working on a steampunkish J&W crossover, but it's really giving me trouble. But, y'know, so you know the intentions are there. ;)

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

Wonderful! I can't wait!

[waqaychay.livejournal.com]

i use this site (http://www.online-literature.com/quotes/quotations.php) to help find quotes. you can put a one word subject in the "quote" line and it will return a whole list of quotes you can go through to find the right one.

hope that helps!

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

Brilliant, thank you! Wasn't a Bartlett's book Wodehouse's primary source for his quotes?

[waqaychay.livejournal.com]

was it? well, we're in good company then. :D

[kill-claudio.livejournal.com]

1. "Night's candles are burnt out, and jocund day/ Stands tiptoe on the misty mountain tops.", which is from Romeo and Juliet, perhaps? There's also a Browning quote; "The year's at the spring/ And day's at the morn;/ Morning's at seven;/ The hillside's dew-pearled;" which is part of the same poem as the lark and snail thing, and therefore definitely something Jeeves would know.

2. Marcus Aurelius is usually good for a few sanctimonious quotes about sin and stuff, but I can't think of anything off-hand that would fit here. I know there used to be an old English saying, 'Envy never enriched any man'. Sounds like the kind of thing Jeeves' father might have said to him. But it might not quite fit the meaning you're looking for.

3. I'm really having trouble with this one, because Jeeves so rarely expresses strong emotions. I suppose you could go with some more Shakespeare (from Much Ado); "Silence is the perfectest herald of joy; I were but little happy, if I could say how much."

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

1. The Browning quote is cool! Thanks!

3. Yes. It's particularly difficult as he's kinda... busy at the moment, so I don't think he could manage a quote more than ten words long ;-}

[storyfan.livejournal.com]

I'm going to sit here and imagine what he's busy doing, if you don't mind.

[random-nexus.livejournal.com]

*wicked grin*
Ahhh... the ideas that spring to mind.

[niektete.livejournal.com]

I find that Jeeves' "Sir!" usually expresses a whole lot; I use it whenever possible XD

[the-maenad.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure that the Browning quote is well-known enough for even Bertie to have cited it in canon. Isn't it in the same chapter as "I'm going into the park to do pastoral dances"?

[closetofheroes.livejournal.com]

That first quote I came across recently reading the Wooster Proposes Jeeves Disposes book. I can't remember what story it occurs in, but the authour quotes Jeeves quoting most of that poem, including that line, for Bertie, rather in the manner of a bed-time story. It's definitely a favourite of his, and Bertie likes to hear it, so it would be an awesome choice!

[thirstyrobot.livejournal.com]

1. Depending on how relations stand, there's Pope:

'Awake, my love, disclose thy radiant eyes :
Arise, my wife, my beauteous lady, rise !
Hear how the doves with pensive notes complain,
And in soft murmurs tell the trees their pain ;
The winter's past ; the clouds and tempests fly ;
The sun adorns the fields, and brightens all the sky

Obvs. you'd want to get rid of the wife bit. ;)

The Shakespeare you were thinking of might've been this from Venus & Adonis:

Lo, here the gentle lark, weary of rest,
From his moist cabinet mounts up on high,
And wakes the morning, from whose silver breast
The sun ariseth in his majesty;
Who doth the world so gloriously behold
That cedar-tops and hills seem burnish'd gold.

2. You could just have him say it in Latin? Fertilior seges est alieno semper in arvo is the Erasmus version.

3. Maybe try Ovid or Goethe? I've sadly run out of time to dig around any further, but I hope this is some help!

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

That Shakespeare quote is perfect, thank you!!!

2. This is actually Bertie quoting Jeeves. But I do have Bertie mangling Latin somewhere else in the fic, so maybe... "Fertil segues et alien simper in arbor"?

[the-maenad.livejournal.com]

1. The opening of Omar Khayyam might suit? "Awake! for Morning in the bowl of Night/Has cast the Stone which puts the Stars to Flight."

[mrs-rochester11.livejournal.com]

In Hamlet, instead of saying, "Look it's morning." Horatio says: "But, look, the morn in russet mantle clad,/ Walks o'er the dew of yon high eastward hill." I've always liked that quote and perhaps it would help you. As far as the third one goes, I would look into any of the romantic poets, especially Byron; I'm sure he has something suitably passionate;)

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I'll look up Byron on Bartlett.

[lawnnun.livejournal.com]

So, I went looking for my favorite Hafiz ghazal and couldn't find the same translation (it's too verbose for number three, anyway) but I found too many lovely things not to vomit them up here in a massive quotedump. Hopefully someone can use them. The awkward linebreaks are preserved from where I found them. I can't shake the feeling that Jeeves would read and enjoy Hafiz, but I have no idea when his stuff was first translated.

But here's an entire poem I find ludicrously touching:
How/ Did the rose/ Ever open its heart/ And give to this world/ All its/ Beauty?/ It felt the encouragement of light/ Against its/ Being,/ Otherwise,/ We all remain/ Too/ Frightened.

And a few good lines:

"Love sometimes gets tired of speaking sweetly."

“Remember for just one minute of the day, it would be best to try looking upon yourself more as God does, for She knows your true royal nature.”

Also, there's any number of variations on the 'sweet uncleanness' line from 'Measure for Measure'.

And there's always the Bible. Samuel is really gay, the Song of Songs is really porny, and Ruth has some really romantic bits.

[juliacarmen.livejournal.com]

Wow! The Song of Songs is hawt! If I knew the Bible had such high points I would have read it :-}
It didn't have any bits I could use, though, except maybe "O love, for delights!"
It's that kind of ejaculation I'm looking for...

[lawnnun.livejournal.com]

Also, I like to go ahead and reduce Jeeves to incoherence. I mean, if Jeeves can't find his words, you *know* he's distracted. XD

[closetofheroes.livejournal.com]

For the second circ, I came across Jeeves debating with himself which Marcus Aurelius quote to use to comfort his employer.

'Whatever may befall thee, it was preordained for thee from everlasting' or 'Nothing happens to any man which he is not fitted by nature to bear.'

(I hate that last one, personally, because I can't imagine saying it to, say, the child soldiers of Uganda - but there you are).

This situation was in 'Ring for Jeeves' - the non-Bertie novel, which isn't bad though very different in style.