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Speculation post.

Where would you see Bertie and Jeeves in the future? Canonically speaking *cough*. I just mean, can you envision Bertie ever getting married? Things like that. Little toddler Woosters running around? Or would he be indeed as Jeeves claims "not the marrying type" and happily live in his London flat for the rest of his life under the care of Jeeves?

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You've got the wrong fandom silly. That's Sherlock Holmes. ^_-

But seriously, where you joking,
or could you see him being a hermit somewhere in the country???

same. even wodehouse couldn't bear to marry him(so he sent him off to fend 4 yourself school for a while instead...)

You mean the episode at the American sea side where they kidnap a kid(against Jeeves' wishes) so his friend can ‘find it’ and get the girl who is supposedly related to da babey?? Bertie is all exited about having a baby(toddler actually) in the house! He gives him a pot of hunny to quite the kid down, and the brags to his friend how good he is with children!!! Jeeves, unfortunately, is also a little clueless about children, and treats the child like a clever dog - he "trains it" to say something(not saying what, its a spoiler) using sweets as rewards, and when he holds it, he does so stiffly, as is it where a heavy boxy or a slightly smelly dog. @_@ rolls eyes....

Thread hijack! *g*

Just wanted to poke my nose in and say that, according to Benny Green's "Wodehouse: A Literary Biography", Jeeves was born in 1881 (the same year as Wodehouse himself, incidentally). And if we assume that Bertie's 23 or 24 when they meet in 1919 (his age is referenced somewhere in "Carry On Jeeves", IIRC), then Bertie was born in 1895 or so. So the 10-15 year age gap is about right.

/end research-geek comment

Thank you, thank you! I knew I got it from somewhere. Now I don't have to worry so much.

I had reason to research Jeeves's age rather closely, for a forthcoming story. *looks shifty*

Frankly, I'd get Bertie married just so he could have a kid. He would then lose the wife in a suitably tearjerking and bizarre accident (examples: pecked to death by a swarm of wild pigeons, pushed off a cliff by Professor Moriarty, shot in the chest by an angry bird dog with opposable thumbs, eaten by an anachronistic pterodactyl.)

Bertie would wallow about with his adorable small child until Jeeves swooped in to rescue them. Socially acceptable slash would abound. All would be fluffy.

... Not going to happen, is it?

Over time Bertie goes through a great many changes, most notably his opinion on matrimony. When we first meet him he's a semi-ladykiller, keen to hook up with a suitably dishy female and propagate the Wooster line, though his admiration of his various fiancees lacks any hint of carnality. There are reasons for that, of course, which are a different discussion altogether, but it still counts as evidence for this discussion, IMO.

By the end of, say, "Stiff Upper Lip, Jeeves" I'd say he's definitely in the "Nature's bachelor" basket. Putting Jeeves's machinations aside, all the girls Bertie fancies fade out of the canon pretty early on - Bobbi Wickham, Pauline Stoker, etc. The only ones who remain are those he wouldn't be seen dead in a ditch with, or else they get him into such trouble that he breaks out of the love-spell pretty quickly.

Sticking as close to the canon evidence as possible, therefore, I can only speculate that while Bertie may at some point want children (unlikely, given his opinion after visiting the girls' school), he wouldn't be terribly keen on marrying to get them. I could see him adopting a small boy and perhaps taking a house in the country until the kid was old enough to go off to school, then returning to the flat except for the holidays.

Jeeves would probably stick with him in this scenario: really, by the time we get to "The Tie That Binds", regardless of your views on slash, they are a couple in all the important ways. So no, I don't ever see Bertie getting married, and Jeeves's position is made pretty clear in JATTTB.

Sidebar: Isn't it odd that in this situation, it's Bertie's motives that are unclear while Jeeves's heart is well and truly on his sleeve?

You know...

*sheepishly*

For a long time I've been thinking about writing a guilty pleasure fic with a story line similar to that. Just for my own ~~lust~~ amusement. It would be angst-filled, of course, because Wooster got married not knowing of Jeeves feelings and Jeeves left stoicly heartbroken.

Yes, I have thought about it. Perhaps too much.

Mmmm, interesting. I eagerly await it. *g*

I don't have the chops to write it, and it's something I also guiltily want to read. So if you wrote it, I would read it.

*has written 18 pages of it*

*is kind of embarrassed*

Ever going to finish/post it?

I always thought of Jeeves as the more romantic one. I may, of course, be smoking the wacky crack. I think it's all that poetry he quotes.

People were talking about their ideal guilty-pleasure-kidfic above; I think mine would be Jeeves admitting to all the (frankly, IMO, somewhat disturbing) machinations he's gone through to keep himself primary in Bertie's life, and then Bertie undercutting him by revealing that none of that had ever been necessary to begin with -- he'd had B. at "Hello, sir," so to speak. Silly Jeeves.

I'm such a sap. *g*

My first J&W book was Jeeves in the Morning, which has Jeeves behaving in a very romantic fashion. Wooster's friend even tells him that Jeeves, when the lovebirds reconciled in the garden, was looking distinctively teary-eyed. Jeeves says stuff to Wooster about how his heart melts when he sees a rainbow. Now that is a romantic, IMHO.

I like your guilt-fic idea. Simple, to the point, and gets us where we want to go.

Being sappy is the way to go. *g*

*L* I doubt Bertie would last long being a hermit in the country. He would do well there for short spells, but would probably ultimately miss his Drones Club and his excitement and meeting up with friends whenever he wants to. He's a relatively social animal, Wooster, no?

Ah. I stand corrected.

:D

*L* Yes, that episode, but there's traces of it in the book as well.

Jeeves frequently sees little children as means of getting something done and "things easily trained" to suit his purpose. Bertie would probably just coo over them and generally adore them as long as they didn't create too much of a fuss (which would then be delegated to Jeeves again, poor chap.)

(I call everything smaller than my dog a baby. *cough*)

Do you? No, I haven't heard of that. I like the thought of that.

With a fab icon like that you may stand anywhere you like, old thing.

I hope so, although it would need a lot of revising. I've posted enough cringe-worthy fics already to be a little wary now. But we'll see :)

Plus which is the one where Jeeves is quoting poetry about the moonlight to Bertie and Bertie is all, "Not now, Jeeves"?

I can picture the cover but I've forgotten the title. Something about Jeeves.

I'm pretty sure that is also JITM. Wooster takes a calming walk in the garden very late in the evening, and Jeeves just 'happens' to be there and prepared to recite romantic poetry.

My best friend (who actually introduced me to the world of wodehouse) describes him as being a social butterfly. And he is. Just not one that sips and flits. rather, one that is frequently being caught up in nets.

I work at a toddler nursery so the age group of the little blighter -errm, I mean adorable little boy -was immediately apparent to me.

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